Becoming a Better (and Happier) Leader with Bozoma Saint John

Meet Bozoma:

Bozoma Saint John is no stranger to loss. In college, she lost her boyfriend; later in life she dealt with the loss of a premature baby and most recently, she lost her husband to cancer. Through these experiences, Bozoma has learned the importance of actively looking for joy, whether that be in the workplace or in life.

She is a Hall of Fame-inducted marketer, entrepreneur, and author of The Urgent Life and has held leadership roles at some of the most defining companies of our generation, such as Netflix, Uber and Apple. 

In this episode, host Gautam Mukunda speaks with Bozoma about how she builds teams that embrace peoples’ differences, her approach to marketing household names, and how she actively finds joy even in the darkest of times.


[0:30] How differences make better executives

[5:10] The key to marketing household names

[11:00] Joy is an action

[16:00] Finding excitement to help you through your days

Resources Referenced:

The Urgent Life: My Story of Love, Loss, and Survival by Bozoma Saint John

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